Women in this forum !!

[spiceant]

Im not up to anything in particular. Im suggesting women are more complete and in general superior. (And i neither do or not suggest we take some change behaviour based on that.) One more detail about women, the have a bit longer lifespan (as they have an additional pathway to eliminate poisons with their monthly cycle)

There is one other issue i touched upon with the last sentence in my last reply namely that of the so called feminine and masculine  (that of feeling/intuition and rationality). The rationality being effable in words and only effective if accompanied by feeling or intuition, the feminine.

[Stefan]

ok now I understand. But I'm not a friend of calling lifeforms, people or sexes "superior" or "inferior".
I am quoting myself: is the yin more yinyang than the yang (or vice versa)?

Metta, Stefan

[Matthew]

There is no "yin"",
If there is no "yang".
Nor are there "women",
If there are no "men"
All arise and all depend,
Upon each other to the end.

[spiceant]

does yinyang apply to sexes?

Why do you have a problem with calling superior/inferior? We'r all born inequal or else we'd be identical. The point is not to think of it or be bothered by it but do the best you can regardless.

[Stefan]

Wonderful poem, Matthew! 

In Germany we remember one of these strange terrible guys (had a moustache), who made a big fuzz about superior/ inferior, and six million people got killed ....

"superior-inferior" is totally different to "inequal".
Calling us inequal means observing what really exists. True, we are all inequal.
But calling someone superior or inferior means judging, and that leads to the creation of sankharas in the end.

Yes, YinYang also applies to sexes. Archetypical symbolism.

Metta, Stefan

[spiceant]

Hello Stefan,

I take a little offense to this yin yang teaching. I find it builds on the late (last 10.000-6000 years) teaching of evil and good (that there is evil as a real something and good as an equally real something), light/dark and so forth. But there is no dark, only light. There is no dark, only the relative absence of a certain amount of light. there is no cold, only the lack of a certain amount of heat. So also there is no evil, only good (and there is always atleast a little bit of good everywhere). The analogy of female/male feminine/masculine was used because it served well because of what it culturally stood for. Namely the female standing for feeling and male for rational. but it is outdated. (And also i believe, yin/yang & Archetypical symbolism is not a bhudda/dhamma teaching?)

I find what you say is contradictory or paradoxial and also that you are getting a few things confused. By superior/inferior is different from inequal you are stating something like hot are both cold are inequal to different. sup/inferior hot/cold are both functions of a concept and inequality/difference signifies. By sup/inferior i mean complete/defective healthy/sick. I am go way more into this if you request, but i want to say other things first.

I find your Adolf Hitler analogy offensive, thats like saying Jesus is a criminal because of the christian crusades or that the (current) Dalai Lama is a criminal because a few tibetians are being bad. I (get the idea) in the same way you insinuate that this superior/inferior idea i am expressing is evil because a disturbed somebody had used that idea to do horrific things. That problem was not the idea itself but what was done with it. The same thing that is being done with rat poison, being 99% food and 1% poison oor lets examplify the bible, 99% true but 1% lethal assumption or lets say bhuddism, 99% true but 1% messes it up for most.

I mean to examplify that there is no point in discussing these kind of things, because they don't have any good application/utility and just a way to divide, conquer, traumatize etc... (as your holocaust analogy examplifies) There is no point in discussing it for many reasons. 1 Because it has been rigged / boobytrapped to be divisive/confusing/darkening/evil in our society and 2 it just isnt usefull for anything. None Can do any practical good with it. It goes back to an idea i see expressed in the new testament: Your only going to get to 'heaven' as simple as a young child. (Matthew 18:3) Young children don't get into elaborate arguments. Their life radiates all the teaching anyone ever need to know.

[Stefan]

Hei Spiceant,

no offence ment really!

With Metta & a warm smile, Stefan

[spiceant]

i exegerated a bit perhaps. I find that of me "taking offense" is better described as "seeing something absurd"

hugs,

[Green Tara]

My life has changed a lot recently and I hardly have any free time,
but I had to come back and post, just in case, people might think you guys are doing something to drive women away from this forum. 
No seriously, I am really baffled, still curious, and don’t have a clue to why female members don’t post. Probably they know something I don’t. if that is the case, please please tell me, (that was pleading to the female members here).
The thing is I have seen some of the members posting on other Vipassana forum, so why not this one.
I will keep on asking till I get the answer.

[Matthew]

2.5 to 1 now ... things are slowly moving in the right direction

In the Dhamma,

Matthew

[Flipasso]

when there are 51% of women in this forum I will consider the forum a representative sample of the world population...    Statistics...

happiness@

[Matthew]

Maybe more men use the internet for revealing themselves than women due to social expectation. 51 per cent may not be fair.

[ivana]

I hop I am at meditation forum site so it does not matter if I am a woman or a man or if mostly man  post something. By the way I am a woman and do not worry first of all I am a human being. 

[Matthew]

There are many more guys on the site than women. This we know. Does it matter? Is there a reason?

Those things seem not important. The qualities of the community are what matter. Recently the site membership has grown and bit by bit people get to know one another. The quality of discussion here is much improved recently due to several factors.

[maybeiam]

interesting