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kristianfromdk

Meditation and sports/strength training
« on: August 23, 2010, 03:26:49 PM »
I am 19 yo and still very active in sports, I don't know if vipassana and and an active lifestyle can go together. It's way to hard to sit for one hour in the evening after having strength trained/playing football(soccer). Are there any other positions that will make me able to sit for 1 hour?

Thanks in advance, and the love to you! :D

Masauwu

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 12:56:39 AM »
Hi Kristian,

If you are tired and sleepy in the evening after all that effort, try going to bed 1 hour early and get up in the morning 1 hour early and meditate then. :)

If you are finding it difficult to sit for 1 hour then try doing it for 20-30 minutes first and slowly work your way up.
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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 06:24:43 AM »
Good news: You don't have to sit AT ALL!  You can do walking meditation, which is recognised as being just as good as sitting meditation.
A lot of meditation centres teach walking and sitting meditation, and it's just preference which you do.  Heaps of monks got to nirvana doing walking meditation.  The mahasi centers teach walking really well, and they're highly recommended.

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 05:21:24 AM »
Welcome to the forum Kristian,

What is exactly the problem with sitting in the evening after sport? A little more information will help answer your question.

Warm regards, in the Dhamma,

Matthew
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Crystal Palace

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 05:09:10 PM »
Dear Kristian,

You need not sit directly after having played sport. Ideally you could sit just before going to sleep and after getting up (after brushing, bathing etc) And Masauwu gives a good piece of advice - you need not sit the entire 1 hour in the beginning if you cannot - 20-30 mins would do just fine.

Personally, I have found that whenever I have played sport or engaged in proper physical work, my meditation becomes easier, my concentration boosts and I get better and more sound sleep.

Good news: You don't have to sit AT ALL!  You can do walking meditation, which is recognised as being just as good as sitting meditation.
A lot of meditation centres teach walking and sitting meditation, and it's just preference which you do.  Heaps of monks got to nirvana doing walking meditation.  The mahasi centers teach walking really well, and they're highly recommended.

I doubt if walking meditation can fully substitute the traditional sits. Walking meditation is good as a supplement, especially for beginners - just in the same way as sleeping meditation is.

Regards
CP

 
"Abstain from unwholesome actions,
Perform wholesome actions,
Purify your mind"

Buddha

joy

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 06:42:10 PM »
"The Buddha said that the samædhi you develop from walking meditation
is much stronger than the samædhi that you develop from sitting meditation."
Joy

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 08:35:26 PM »
Then we will have to find out whether he was right.

CP
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Perform wholesome actions,
Purify your mind"

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 11:15:16 PM »
"The Buddha said that the samædhi you develop from walking meditation
is much stronger than the samædhi that you develop from sitting meditation."

Development of Samadhi is not fulfilment of the path. The Buddha did not walk around the Bodhi tree ... he sat under it :D
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ERICOFBODOM

Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 05:14:56 PM »
you should definitely look up the crap I'm selling, it gives you a ton of energy without making you tired and will improve your when you play sports, youll have more energy like i said and be more focused

--Eric
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Morning Dew

Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2010, 08:09:33 PM »
Hi Eric, what about Red Bull? I heard it boosts your energy to the roof and gives you wings ;)
And hey Eric OT what do you teach?

Welcome aboard my man :)

kidnovice

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2010, 10:52:34 PM »
Joydip, do you have a sutta reference?

Thanks,
KN
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joy

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 06:28:17 AM »
Joydip, do you have a sutta reference?

Thanks,
KN
Dear KN
I know very little or no ‘suttas’, etc.!!
 I picked up this quote from e-book titled
“Contemplation of the Mind
Practising Cittanupassana”
by Bhikkhu Khemavamsa.
Of course it is not my own realization; may be I should abstain posting such foolishness.

Time for meditation- both sitting and walking!

But still I feel that
“Buddha said that the samadhi you develop from walking meditation is much stronger than the samadhi that you develop from sitting meditation.
Very important to know because in the moving process if you can stay with that, the awareness is stronger….”

 
With love
Joydip
Joy

Morning Dew

Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2010, 07:59:35 AM »
We talk of Buddha as we personaly knew him, and of Suttas as we personaly knew the ones writing it ;)

Lets be reminded of our dear friend Jahnanda for a moment; lost in bliss and suttas.

Leave the words and ideas in peace. The point is to lessen the "me" not strenghten it by adding new concepts to it. What is the point in replacing old idaes with new ones?!

Your whole life is the Body tree, "sit" under it and be mindful of all that is.
Keep It Simple Stupid!
:)

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2010, 08:17:33 AM »
Welcome aboard my man :)

Sorry morning Dew ... had to ban Eric. We make it pretty clear we don't want spammers. :)
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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2010, 08:18:42 AM »
Buddha said a bargain bucket from KFC is better value than a happy meal from McDonalds.

Honestly.
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Morning Dew

Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2010, 09:40:52 AM »
Oh no ! Not my beloved Eric! ;)

Btw , i dont think it was KFC! I think he said Subway!

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2010, 09:44:50 AM »
Attachment forms quickly eh, Morning Dew?

At least I know you are progressing well with letting go ;)

Some teachers say it was Subway, some KFC and some (who clearly miss the point entirely) say Pizza Hut.

A Happy Meal can't be beat. No other meal gives you a piece of plastic crap to play with.
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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2010, 01:10:15 PM »
Attachment forms quickly eh, Morning Dew?

At least I know you are progressing well with letting go ;)


I will second that. I am amazed at the level of understanding that Morning Dew has reached, from his first post on the forum. The little biased part of me cannot help but feel proud that vipassanaforum.net has made a little contribution in this regard. And even more specifically, it is Matthew's constant hammering of the basics on the forum that really deserve a large chunk of the credit.

I suppose the only thing left for MD is to walk on the path now.

CP

PS - Don't inflate your ego with this, Morning Dew.
PPS - You too Matthew.
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Perform wholesome actions,
Purify your mind"

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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2010, 01:21:52 PM »
Nor you Crystal ;)
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Morning Dew

Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2010, 05:13:39 PM »
Quote
I am amazed at the level of understanding that Morning Dew has reached

Funny you say this because today i managed to get into fight with my wife, working coleque, boss and i was rude to a customer! All in one day and i still feel pissed off and am about to get a pizza and two beers!

Remain relaxed unless u cant


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Re: Meditation and sports/strength training
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2010, 05:27:59 PM »

Remain relaxed unless u cant


hahahahahaahahahahahah!!!!!
"Abstain from unwholesome actions,
Perform wholesome actions,
Purify your mind"

Buddha

 

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