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unprevadedrapture

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Celibacy
« on: April 25, 2010, 03:23:59 AM »
http://www.dlshq.org/download/brahma_nopic.htm
http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/brahmacharya.htm

any other literature that inspires or supports you on this topic would be appreciated...

or comments, discussion, et al.

Matthew

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 04:46:36 AM »
In my twenties I had more than my fair share of lovers and gymnastic night-time explorations.

In my thirties I realised how unfulfilled it left me.

In the last nine years I have been celibate.

It's not a life-time vow, but it suits me for now.

When you stop thinking about women sexually you see them differently.

Warmly,

Matthew
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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 05:36:55 AM »
if by any means you are willing to share more of that process and your experience i'd love to hear about it.

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 05:45:20 AM »
I too would be interested to know about your experiences and how you made the transition into celibacy for 9 years.

Thanks,
Crystal Palace
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Perform wholesome actions,
Purify your mind"

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 07:26:28 AM »
 "One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable, and therefore, not popular." - Carl Jung

i think there's an extant to which this is necessary and we have to face demons and fight battles (which we face in celibacy), and also an extent to which "imagining figures of light" (which to me symbolizes samadhi) can help us through this process... i am here in solidarity with all you taking, struggling, or considering this process. thanks for any thoughts...

Matthew

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 08:17:55 AM »
I made the transition by stopping having sex.

It wasn't hard to do. When you have explored all possibilities in any realm it becomes, in effect, boring. If I ever have sex again I expect it to be with the mother of my kids, if she is out there somewhere - and if I will have kids.

There is a huge difference between sex and making love. I learned that after ten years with the same woman, by which time we could do either at will ... and the difference was stark.

Matthew
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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 08:49:51 AM »
all possibilities in any realm? what about like... completion stages? Do you have a diamond soul? common now. just kidding. you don't have to answer that. http://sacred-sex.org/buddhism/
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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 04:16:04 AM »
chastity*

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'Celibacy   
An unmarried state. Nowadays, this term is used incorrectly to refer to a state of renouncing sex.'

'Chastity   
Alchemical transmutation of the sexual energy while renouncing animal desire and the orgasm. Absolute chastity is perfectly clean and virtuous, free of lust and animal desire.'


i'm interested in what usually happens to the sexual energy in asexual therevada practice over extended periods...
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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 06:11:04 AM »
god is strange...

unprevadedrapture

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 06:21:27 AM »
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.
Voltaire

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 02:08:17 AM »
Like Matt, I went through a decade in which "I had more than my fair share of lovers and gymnastic night-time explorations," with some of the most beautiful and liberated women who have ever taken birth. However, I have been celibate for 10 years, and it was saturation in the four jhanas that brought an end to my addiction to sex.  I do not miss sex or romance in anyway, because I start and end every day with saturation and suffusion in the four ecstasies.  I am not even tempted when an attractive woman takes an interest in me.  I just smile and turn my mind back to the charisms (jhana-nimitta) that flood my awareness throughout every day.  I thus have proof that jhana leads to liberation (vimokha).

Best regards, Jhananda

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 02:54:04 AM »
what happens to the sexual energy? do you feel it just becomes irrelevant?  how is it related to forces of feminine and masculine, etc. in what sense is this liberation-- in the sense that an arahat is free from sexual desire (perhaps this comes from a commentary) and without the jhana is this possible? perhaps these qualities must be permanently uprooted through higher paths and fruits. thanks for any thoughts.

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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 06:51:33 AM »
Like Matt

.. Matthew please. If that is too much to type call me TIB :)
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Re: Celibacy
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2010, 03:55:36 AM »
some secret thots for the world  :-X
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how does it make sense to you that the buddha got back with his wife to achieve enlightenment?
it contradicts so many teachings, the way the monks were recorded to have lived...
7:19pmProfound
it is in line with every teaching
on earthj
but I understand why you think that it isn't
It doesn't matter though..
All we have to do is meditate and preserve the sexual energy
little by little
the rest willl come
who care if buddha did or didn't have a wife
we know that meditation is the way
so ....
we sit
we know that sexual energy is the source to everything so we preserve that
with our life
7:22pmMe
and if you fail
you can't kill yourself
7:23pmProfound
yep..
if you have a wet dream you rejoice
because then you can see your shame and your lust
and look at it
and then go deeper
eventually they well stop
than in this life or the next or the next you must stop renoincing sex and enter int o the furnace
to look at Lilith
it is only here in SEX that we can see the darkest sides
that we can reveal Lilith
and this creates... because that is what sex does
but it creates something besides a baby of flesh
Not even masters of meditaton may know this
it is the secret teachinngs
not even advanced monks and sanyasis with many siddhis know this
because they believe they have made it
they truly are in bliss and they believe they are enliggtened
but Lilith is still behind them
waiting to be discovered
7:28pmMe
like the matrix
why create?
7:28pmProfound
no
the matrix is confusion
7:29pmMe
create?
7:30pmProfound
For what purpose do we build the Solar Bodies?
7:30pmMe
why not go beyond cause and effect all together?
and stay there..
7:30pmProfound
With which purpose do we descend into the Ninth Sphere if we must abandon the Solar Bodies? With what purpose do we build something that we are not going to use? An atomic seed from each one of these Christic vehicles remains when they are dissolved. It is ostensible that in thesse vehicles four atomic seeds remain. It is indubitable that these atoms correspond to the physical, Astral, Mental and Causal Bodies.
7:33pmMe
It is indubitable that these atoms correspond to the physical, Astral, Mental and Causal Bodies.
7:35pmProfound
The fact of having built these bodies gives him autonomous cognizance.
autonomous cognizance?
like the bodies of the buddha in vajrayana?
8:01pmProfound
have you ever experienced astral travel?
8:02pmMe
what is that?
8:02pmProfound
like really being out of your body
like floating above your body
or sliding along the bed
8:02pmMe
i thought that was different
8:02pmProfound
or being held down
?
8:03pmMe
yeah
8:03pmProfound
that is the begining of astral travel many times
that is another body that you have
but it is a lunar body
it is possible to be conscious in that body
and explore
will if you create the solars bodies it is different and more powerful
than you have to create seven bodies total
there is this one and 6 others
including the one you have felt occasionally
These correspong top the 7 nagas you see above the buddha sometimes or Patanjali
and the seven chakras and seven rays of the rainbow and notes of the musical scale
etc..
So you raise the kundalini in this body
and then you create another body from the Sun.. A solar body and raise that kundalini
and so on..
then you become a master with seven solar bodies and seven serpoents raised above your ghead
look at old egyptian pictures and sculptures and buddhist and hindu and gnostic
they all ahve serpents as headbands or as hats
they are showing you they have attained mastery
if they have 4 serpents they are that level of a master
is they have 7 they are very great..
that serpent is the same serpant that tempted eve symbolically
but don't let this distract you..
I believe that is why it has been a secret for so long
it is very distracting
it is very distracting
but these are different times
I am really off to sit now..
did you stay with me?



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