learning chanting without teacher

[unprevadedrapture]

can anyone suggest any resources that break down the pali pronunciation out loud, or any good pali chanters (not always fast) to listen to?  an old burmese dude tried to teach me but gave up after a few seconds..

pali chanting  
Pali Chanting - Anavum paritta.flv
Thai Pali Chanting 泰国巴利经文

[unprevadedrapture]

Buddham Saranam Gacchami- The Triple Gem by IndiaJiva
http://soundcloud.com/arammm/chanting ...

[unprevadedrapture]

^ignore that.

[Matthew]

Chanting is not a greatly beneficial practice.

Matthew

[unprevadedrapture]

want to conform. want to ordain.

[Crystal Palace]

Chanting is not a greatly beneficial practice.

...if done as an act of rite or ritual.

But if it is performed with a pure heart, I see no reason why it should not be of merit. After strong meditative sessions, metta chants can especially become powerful, wherein you put in your mouth what has been in your heart or mind.

Chants can also be useful when expressing surrender or determination. Even the most basic chant of taking refuge in the Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha can become powerful if performed with a clear mind.

It is worth repeating that chants must not be confused with rites or rituals but should be seen as a verbal expression of what is going on in the mind and maybe as preceding the bodily actions. The thumb rule to follow is: Whether or not you really feel for what you are saying.

Warmly,
Crystal Palace

[unprevadedrapture]

sadu. for me its been good for mindfulness, sila, keeping oriented, sometimes keeping away sloth and torpor and in practicing and learning good for this like any creative act, community, setting, taking texts to heart, can be done with clear comprehension, awareness of impermanence etc. i remember maha boowa said seeing the triple gem as one, and beyond the concepts, is the only way the refuge really makes sense. i don't really know what that means, since the dude's an arahat and speaks in his own terms, but really feeling it probably happens some time after kindergarden. i want to improve pali pronunciation anyway, and be less sloppy in general visiting monasteries.

[convivium]

http://audio.buddhistdoor.com/eng/play/1136