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How would you define mindfulness?
« on: February 19, 2021, 11:17:39 PM »
Jon  Kabat-Zinn defines it as

“the awareness that arises from paying attention, on purpose, in the present moment and non-judgmentally”

How would you define it?

Is it a sorry state of affairs that people cant even give a definitive answer to the most basic of questions regarding this subject? Lots have a differing definition form one another.

But yea how would you define it?

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Middleway

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Re: How would you define mindfulness?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2021, 12:32:40 AM »
What’s wrong with Jon Kabat-Zinn definition?
Take everything I say with a grain of salt.

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Re: How would you define mindfulness?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2021, 05:02:04 AM »
The main issue is everyone is giving a different definition , you know they may be all near enough to the mark but its a bit confidence reducing when the practitioners and experts cant even define what they are doing with consensus and precision
« Last Edit: February 20, 2021, 05:04:33 AM by Username »

Siddharth

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Re: How would you define mindfulness?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2021, 01:25:44 PM »
The main issue is everyone is giving a different definition , you know they may be all near enough to the mark but its a bit confidence reducing when the practitioners and experts cant even define what they are doing with consensus and precision

I understand your dilemma. It is okay to feel that way. Everyone here is basically searching the truth on their own, and the community is like an oasis where people can share their experiences and help each other move ahead..
Everyone is a traveler on the path, just like you and no-one is there yet, so all we do is share our experience hoping to aid the community. Had you gotten the same definition from everyone, it would have meant you had joined a cult. this is not a cult. Take everything here with a grain of salt and go on experiencing your own truth...
I am often fascinated by the saying : "To suggest is to create, to describe is to destroy"
I hope you progress in dhamma and find peace,
Siddharth
And what is good, Phædrus,
And what is not good...
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

stillpointdancer

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Re: How would you define mindfulness?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2021, 01:55:45 PM »
The main issue is everyone is giving a different definition , you know they may be all near enough to the mark but its a bit confidence reducing when the practitioners and experts cant even define what they are doing with consensus and precision

That's the problem of working on something as elusive as mindfulness. In the end you don't need consensus and precision, you just need a mindfulness practice which works for you. Try one, and if it isn't having the effect you want either stick with it for a bit longer or try another. We are all different and all need a somewhat different practice within the limits of the Buddhist path, so finding the 'precise' definition might actually hold people back.
“You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet.” Franz Kafka

Alex

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Re: How would you define mindfulness?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2021, 02:11:38 PM »
Quote from: Carl Jung
Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens.

So what’s happening inside?
Here are a some of your statements in this thread
-   It’s a sorry state of affairs…
-   The main issue…
-   It’s confidence reducing...
-   …without consensus and precision.

Are you aware of the workings of your-body mind that lead to these statements. What can you learn about yourself? What can you awaken to?

A suggestion, you can explore it or not, that’s up to you… maybe there is confusion, or desire to control the progress/understanding. This would be totally normal as a beginner, by the way.
Can you be minfdull of these mental states when they are present? The outside world is most often just a mirror…
« Last Edit: February 20, 2021, 02:14:21 PM by Alex »

dharma bum

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Re: How would you define mindfulness?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 03:33:34 PM »
Quote
That's the problem of working on something as elusive as mindfulness. In the end you don't need consensus and precision, you just need a mindfulness practice which works for you. Try one, and if it isn't having the effect you want either stick with it for a bit longer or try another. We are all different and all need a somewhat different practice within the limits of the Buddhist path, so finding the 'precise' definition might actually hold people back.

Agreed completely. Not only is everyone different, the same person is different at different times.
Mostly ignorant

 

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