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hdoshi

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Body is composed of atomic particles
« on: May 14, 2020, 06:58:36 PM »
Respected All,
As per the lectures of Shri Goenka ji, advanced Vipassana meditator can practically experience that his body is composed of atomic particles and electro magnetic vibrations.

It is difficult to understand this on intellectual level.

Those who have experienced this can please share their experience.

stillpointdancer

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Re: Body is composed of atomic particles
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 11:19:44 AM »
It's part of the process of coming to terms with what you really are. One of those is to accept that you really are just a mere bag of chemicals arranged in a specific way. At the same time every bit of you is 'you', not just the mind, but the brain and body. In meditation you kind of sink into your body rather than staying in the head, where we normally think we are. I start by relaxing every part of me, then kind of 'tune in' to it now that I am more aware of it.

If you know that everything actually is composed of vibrations it helps for the next bit, where you feel what you describe in your post. That you are alive and buzzing, from the tips of your toes to the top of your head. I have to be careful at this point as it's too easy to slip into bliss, which is, counter-intuitively, rather a dead end in terms of what I am trying to do at the time.
“You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet.” Franz Kafka

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Re: Body is composed of atomic particles
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 08:25:05 PM »
I have to be careful at this point as it's too easy to slip into bliss, which is, counter-intuitively, rather a dead end in terms of what I am trying to do at the time.

Been there for a significant amount of time before realizing, that this was me just being lazy on the couch from being lazy in front of the TV. It is kind of a constant effort to stay really awake for me presently. Like a fight against gravity. Sometimes I wonder, if meditation was so organic, if this really is the best state we can be in, why is it (or why have we made it over time) so difficult to achieve. It is more like playing violin, or performing acrobatics for me presently.
It should ideally be like cow eating grass. available to all easily. But perhaps someday!
And what is good, Phædrus,
And what is not good...
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

stillpointdancer

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Re: Body is composed of atomic particles
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2020, 11:55:06 AM »
It depends on the meditation practice you want to follow. Ideally it should be a balance between different types, gradually easing yourself into the practices. but even then meditation should not be 'easy' unless you just want to relax or bliss out. When you are working on changing how your mind works, it objects rather strongly sometimes, and you have to work through some rough times. Mostly nothing happens, but good times balance out bad times, and eventually meditation becomes as much part of your life as breathing and you understand that you will always do some form of it.
“You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet.” Franz Kafka

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Re: Body is composed of atomic particles
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2020, 05:10:37 PM »
When you are working on changing how your mind works, it objects rather strongly sometimes, and you have to work through some rough times. Mostly nothing happens, but good times balance out bad times, and eventually meditation becomes as much part of your life as breathing and you understand that you will always do some form of it.

I get it SPD, un-conditioning the mind takes time and effort, and the practice, which I have been practising for some time now has definitely changed me. most times I feel for the better. And there have been some rough times, but generally neutral or good times.

What comes to mind these days is not the nature of reality (which meditation practise has helped me understand a little deeper that I would have), but the reason why reality is as it is in the first place.

I do not see myself not meditating and not walking on the path anytime soon in the future. But as I understand it's intangible importance to the quality of my being, I also become more aware that it is REAL WORK to move ahead, and perhaps in this whole lifetime, the practice will be a constant companion. At times this is unsettling. To live in peace, and with equanimity and dignity (and all the other adjectives that are desirable and wholesome) is MUCH WORK. there are other options, which most people opt for most of the times (not excluding meditators). Thus I find myself wondering on the reason behind why reality is as is.

Anyways, I hope you are fine during these times SPD, it has been some time now that I know you through this sangha and I wish you the best.
And what is good, Phædrus,
And what is not good...
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

 

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