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meditateallday

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suicide and meditation.
« on: March 02, 2014, 08:02:20 PM »
I think meditation could save 1mln. lives per year! This is perfect remedy against suicide. If all, feeling suicidal could learn what meditation is, they would surely avoid such radical decision.
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Just A Simple Guy

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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 08:37:05 PM »
Actually, meditation is contraindicated for some mental health diagnosis. Some people are not mentally or emotionally equipped to being self-aware in their current state.

At least not on their own without guidance of a professional who incorporates mindfulness in their therapy. Even then a therapist might determine it's not a good approach depending on the specific diagnosis and where they are in their recovery.
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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 05:02:56 AM »
In my experience when a person is mentally imbalance it is impossible to train the mind and teach meditation to him. If he knew mindfulness meditation before hand then only can he apply it. A disturbed mind's resistance to mindfulness is infinite.

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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 10:35:17 AM »
i feel imbalanced but with practising its better...meditation is powerful...no excuses

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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 03:17:49 PM »
There is a good review article of the scientific literature here though it should be noted many further publications have emerged since the review that may fill in some of the identified gaps.

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meditateallday

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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 08:56:26 PM »
Actually, meditation is contraindicated for some mental health diagnosis. Some people are not mentally or emotionally equipped to being self-aware in their current state.

At least not on their own without guidance of a professional who incorporates mindfulness in their therapy. Even then a therapist might determine it's not a good approach depending on the specific diagnosis and where they are in their recovery.

My approach to this is a bit different. I look globally. The more people worldwide practice, taste meditation, the less of them could later come to a point, where they might consider suicide as possible solution.
As a therapy, yes it can be too late in some cases, cause you cannot learn what meditation is in 1 hour or day.
Kind regards, Andrei Seregin

Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 04:42:53 AM »
“If every 8 year old in the world is taught meditation, we will eliminate violence from the world within one generation.” Dalai Lama

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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2014, 02:57:00 PM »
“If every 8 year old in the world is taught meditation, we will eliminate violence from the world within one generation.” Dalai Lama

Nice thought but untrue :D

Meditation and the awareness it brings can be used for selfless/good acts as well as selfish/evil.

If every eight year old was taught meditation plus development of emotional intelligence and, in particular, compassion then I'd be more in agreement with this.
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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2014, 06:07:01 PM »
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emotional intelligence and, in particular, compassion then I'd be more in agreement with this.

I thought these were the products of mindfullness meditation.

I do agree its a wishful thinking.

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Re: suicide and meditation.
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 06:37:09 PM »
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emotional intelligence and, in particular, compassion then I'd be more in agreement with this.

I thought these were the products of mindfullness meditation.

I do agree its a wishful thinking.

Compassion can be an outcome of mindfulness if Metta is also practiced. Mindfulness itself though is just a tool and like all tools can be used for the good or the bad. Successful serial killers are very mindful ...
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