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Dalai Lama on religion
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:20:03 AM »

"Because of the great differences in our ways of thinking, it is inevitable that we have different religions and faiths. Each has its own beauty. And it is much better that we live together on the basis of mutual respect and mutual admiration."

(The Dalai Lama, facebook, 13.6.2011)
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 11:21:04 AM »
"Each religion has it's own beauty ..."  :)
"... mutal admiration."  :)

what a man, the Dalai Lama!
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 02:39:59 PM »
Who is Dalai Lama?

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 04:41:44 PM »
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 05:51:35 PM »
My schizo grandmother once said "dont watch into the tv box and dont use lightbulbs! They will damage your mind! Instead at night go to sleep!" she used to go to bed as soon her chicken would go to sleep :)

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 06:32:17 PM »

 :(

no, I didn't understand your input here, Dusko ...
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 06:53:36 PM »
Less reading, more doing.

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 08:02:29 PM »


Less reading, more doing.


Does that apply here?
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 08:09:50 PM »

Who is Dalai Lama?


that is probably the wrong question. Tendzin Gyatsho, doesn't tell me anything.

What is he? sounds more interesting to me ...

when he was a boy his country was attacked by too powerful enemies who killed his people, raped his people, suppressed his people and took away their country and freedom. and never gave back. This boy had to escape and never saw his beloved country again.

Still he manages to state citings as the above. No cynism. No sarcasm. Pure tolerance. Always friendly.
After what happened when he was a boy ...

He will not care about it, but I am not happy if he was ridiculed here?
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 08:11:23 PM »


My schizo grandmother once said "dont watch into the tv box and dont use lightbulbs! They will damage your mind! Instead at night go to sleep!" she used to go to bed as soon her chicken would go to sleep :)


... is this about your tomatoes again?  ;)
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 09:36:35 PM »
No not about tomatos :)
It is about Ljeposava Milinkovic (my grandmother) about TVs and electrical bulbs damaging our minds.
I might start a Wikipedia page on her.

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He will not care about it, but I am not happy if he was ridiculed here?

He is a good man Dalai Lama is. But so is my granny Ljeposava.

May you remain happy Stefan

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 10:12:41 PM »

He is a good man Dalai Lama is. But so is my granny Ljeposava.


And you are frank with yourself about your intentions of posting this here?
Or will you tell me that you truly felt this is the right place for posting it?

And if you wanted to post this here for other reasons than your grandmother ... why not say it straight away?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2011, 10:14:48 PM by The Marvellous Omannobazong!!! »
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 11:05:39 PM »
I agree it is a great quote from the Dalai Lama. It is also characteristic of the non-sectarian nature of the Buddhist teaching. It has always co-existed peacefully with other faiths. Even those it disagreed with, like the Brahmins and the Jaina, were dealt with courteously, and debated with. The Dalai Lama will often say that Westerners considering Buddhism should thoroughly investigate their own tradition first before making any decisions.

If only all the paths were like that!

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2011, 01:07:29 AM »

[/quote]
My schizo grandmother once said "dont watch into the tv box and dont use lightbulbs! They will damage your mind! Instead at night go to sleep!" she used to go to bed as soon her chicken would go to sleep :)

 :angel:

The Dalai Lama will often say that Westerners considering Buddhism should thoroughly investigate their own tradition first before making any decisions.

Hi Dusko,
It was a couple of weeks ago when you were feeling 'religious', did you get far investigating that one? I know it took a long time to come to a place of peace and understanding about my own spiritual heritage, and it didn't come easy either. I'm guessing here, but was your grandmother Eastern Orthodox? The fact she came to mind in reaction to the lama is interesting.

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Visions were practically non-existent in the mystical theology of the Eastern Orthodox Church! Distractions to prayer, whether voluntary or involuntary, were to be deplored and dismissed with whenever possible, and visions and ecstasies were considered to be involuntary distractions to prayer! Those experiences which later mystics sought after and prized so highly were considered by the earlier Christians as little more than nuisances to be suspiciously examined and barely tolerated.

This quote is from the first google hit on eastern orthodox mysticism.
http://www.orthodox.cn/patristics/apostolicfathers/mystic.htm

Making peace with this past may help with this reaction. Myself, I neither venerate or deplore 'spiritual' leaders if I can help it, . Far too many assumptions need to be made to get to either position. Though in this case (lama) I have a reaction too, without even know someone personally, credit cannot be given IMHO..



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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 08:22:51 AM »
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Or will you tell me that you truly felt this is the right place for posting it?

Are you saying that my grandma doesnt have right to naturaly be beside Dalai Lama? Is she any less good than he to be in this thread? Why?


Andy my grandma never practiced Christianity. She had a husband who was beating the Jesus out of her daily. He also kept her separated from the world for more than 40 years. She was not allowed to leave the house and no one (except her doughters and grandkids) was allowed to visit her.
Talking about suffering.
Btw, i was not researching my ex religion but the religous feeling within me which i could invoke through certain music. I passed that stage now after contemplating the feeling.

Buddhism is Dalai Lamas very conditioning. May he be free from it.

Stefan dont feel bitter because of words :) we all are diferent yet as Dalai Lama sais
"Each human has it's own beauty ..." 
"... mutal admiration"
 :angel:

What a dude ;)

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2011, 08:41:45 AM »
oh, ok.

Sounds terrible what she went through. It would be insightful to know what the link is then, obviously suffering deeply is common to both stories.

Re Lama;
My own feeling, and I'm being open here, is there is something (and this is not a fair judgement I know) that feels wrong about the 'captain not going down with his ship'. My own heritage holds that sacrifice in the face of persecution is blessed, and though I never had to face a gun, it is very much the attitude I held as a boy.

So what is the lama doing in exile? Why should others have died to get him out? (And others did die) Doesn't he just reincarnate anyway? Why run from death?

I realise this is not fair at all, but that is the feeling and those are never rational.

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Edit: Added "Re Lama" because it sounded like i was talking about you or grandma!
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 09:05:18 AM by Andrew »
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2011, 09:11:30 AM »

Re Lama;
My own feeling, and I'm being open here, is there is something (and this is not a fair judgement I know) that feels wrong about the 'captain not going down with his ship'. My own heritage holds that sacrifice in the face of persecution is blessed, and though I never had to face a gun, it is very much the attitude I held as a boy.

So what is the lama doing in exile? Why should others have died to get him out? (And others did die) Doesn't he just reincarnate anyway? Why run from death?


He wanted to stay in first place. Captain sinking with ship sounds very nice in a sailor story ... but the country didn't sink, it was pirated ...
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2011, 09:13:03 AM »

Are you saying that my grandma doesnt have right to naturaly be beside Dalai Lama? Is she any less good than he to be in this thread? Why?


Like this? Like how you brought her into this thread? Search your true intentions ...
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2011, 09:20:06 AM »
My schizo grandmother once said "dont watch into the tv box and dont use lightbulbs! They will damage your mind! Instead at night go to sleep!" she used to go to bed as soon her chicken would go to sleep :)

 :angel:

I think it is good advice you grandma gave. Why it came to your mind would be interesting to fathom though, I can feel something in the way you wrote it Dusko, that it is framed in both "Schizo" and "Chickens", is interesting. I'm going to go a Carl Jung on you if you don't come to the party with some insight here!

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2011, 09:51:02 AM »
 
:D :D :D

Andrew, somehow you have a hand for tension-breaking humor (at least as far as I am concerned)

I'm really sorry, Dusko, of course I reacted tense on you ... obviously I did!
Still I'm sure that you brought something into this thread that ... hrmpf ...

but I had a real long laugh after those two posts from Andrew and that smoothened my tensions ...

Metta to you, Stefan

PS.: Does humor belong in meditation?
       We are DOOMED without!  :D
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2011, 10:22:38 AM »
What would Dalai Lama say about this thread if he was here. Assume please. :)
What would Buddha say if he was here?
Or even my grandma?

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 11:01:23 AM »
What would Dalai Lama say about this thread if he was here. Assume please. :)
What would Buddha say if he was here?
Or even my grandma?

"If there is any holy book in buddhism it is the holy book of meditation which you read in ur own heart in the stillness of ur mind. Ajahn Brahm.
Beautiful Breath
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2011, 11:25:15 AM »
Nice one Joy :)
I read that one somewhere i just cant remember where  ;D

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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 11:27:08 AM »
What would Dalai Lama say about this thread if he was here. Assume please. :)
What would Buddha say if he was here?
Or even my grandma?

I don't mind at all.

This wasn't intendet to be a thread but a quote that I found inspirational.
Right now I mind what you brought to this post of mine, and why you brought it here, and what you have to say.
To a certain extend, that is.

Metta, Stefan
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Re: Dalai Lama on religion
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 11:48:29 AM »
Stefan my friend :) this is life full of unexpected happenings :) its not about what has happened but how we relate to it right :) and even how we forgive a fool :)

S. H. I. T. Does Happen - the 1st noble truth ;D

Shoit arises from attachment to desires - second noble truth

Etc...

Much love to you my friend :)

 

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