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dragoneye

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Western Perspective Dalai Lama
« on: June 11, 2011, 01:05:43 AM »
A business associate sent me this article; I think, to show that another of the heros of our American progressives is a hypocrit.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/06/dalai-lama-china-marx-communism/1
I did not respond. Our's is a business relationship, and he is extremely conservative. (its so humorous; he is a Chinese American, and he is constantly haranguing our "undocumented" visitors from Mexico for all of the favorable treatment the liberals afford them)
I am just curious what our Sangha would make of this.
Personally, I feel this goes back to the issue of designating Buddhism as a religion rather than a philosophy. The Dalai Lama could justify the statements that are attributed to him here because he is looking at the politics here through a sectarian lens, and maybe even more importantly; with a Buddhist philosophy.
With metta
DE
Dragoneye

Andrew

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Re: Western Perspective Dalai Lama
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 10:25:49 AM »
Hi DE,
Dalai Lama seems to have made a reasonable statement, he qualified it well enough. Economic theories are just that; theories, I don't think the ideal has ever been put into place, though socialism is a massive part of the australian system. I'm guessing your friend knows nothing about Marx? Send him a link so he can learn what Marx actually said. I assume he means that the Dalai is a communist, and all communists are equal!  :D

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Andy
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Jeeprs

Re: Western Perspective Dalai Lama
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 11:11:27 AM »
A business associate sent me this article; I think, to show that another of the heros of our American progressives is a hypocrit.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/06/dalai-lama-china-marx-communism/1
I did not respond. Our's is a business relationship, and he is extremely conservative. (its so humorous; he is a Chinese American, and he is constantly haranguing our "undocumented" visitors from Mexico for all of the favorable treatment the liberals afford them)
I am just curious what our Sangha would make of this.
Personally, I feel this goes back to the issue of designating Buddhism as a religion rather than a philosophy. The Dalai Lama could justify the statements that are attributed to him here because he is looking at the politics here through a sectarian lens, and maybe even more importantly; with a Buddhist philosophy.
With metta
DE

Hi DE. I don't understand what you are trying to explain here.  I have heard the Dalai Lama say before he is Marxist. This is because he things that capitalism is basically built around self-interest, rather than the common good. I think he is correct in saying that. It is true that Marxism has never worked out in practice. But I think his motivation is altruistic in making these comments.

So what exactly is the point you wish to make? Who is a hypocrite, and why do you think that?

dragoneye

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Re: Western Perspective Dalai Lama
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 05:26:15 PM »
Jeeprs,(Hi Andy :)) I am not saying he is a hypocrite; I had assumed the gentleman that forewarded it to me, was implying that. (It's an unskillful habit I have, and clearly confused my post here)
I was interested in the perspective that originates the article that he linked, which is that Buddhism is a religion.
The issue has come up here in this Sangha. It comes up for me, as I get further along, I find that my path,  has taken on the structure of the path described by the Buddha. I am feeling more confident, that my secularism is perfectly fine, and in fact, in concert with the Blessed One's teachings.
The person that sent the article to me, seems to have his politics and his spirituality bundled up in one place, as do many American conservatives.
I do not, by the way, disagree with how the Dalai Lama evidently sees Marxsist economics and it's potential for us humans, as compared to Capitalism.
Respectfully, with metta,
DE
Dragoneye

Jeeprs

Re: Western Perspective Dalai Lama
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 12:40:27 AM »
Thanks, Dragoneye. I understand your point better now.

 

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