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Meditation, Practice And The Path / Re: Views on Revertant Pramote?
« Last post by Middleway on April 17, 2021, 02:45:21 PM »
His teachings are consistent with Buddha’s teachings as I understand. He teaches from his own experience although he refers to Buddha.

I hope to see him in person some day.

Regards,

Middleway
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Meditation, Practice And The Path / Re: Overwhelming grief.
« Last post by Thanisaro85 on April 17, 2021, 01:03:00 PM »
[The videos I saw are free.

Nice to know that, i want to learn his method for heath related purpose, but did not go ahead as i remember there is a fee coming with it. Will look into his video again.

Thanks🙏🙏🙏
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Meditation, Practice And The Path / Re: Views on Revertant Pramote?
« Last post by Thanisaro85 on April 17, 2021, 12:52:38 PM »


LP Pramote is enlightened in my opinion (at this time).

Hi Middeway,

I hope he is. And i hope we can too, if not, hopefully stream enterer.

What do you think of his teaching? .

Regards
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I agree. Let’s close this thread. I realize this is not your intent, but we should refrain from bringing up for-profit self help gurus into our forum discussions.

My apologies for raking up this issue.

Best,

Middleway
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I think we should close this topic. I can write the detailed answer that How am I right. Then I will get further answers. I don't think It will be productive discussion. I follow multiple people read multiple books. I like some of the writings. I do not like some of the writings. Many people like Osho. Many consider him fraud.

Middleway I won't be taking it personally. But I guess it's not a good idea to discuss it further. Maybe you're right and I'm wrong. I try to take every teaching lightly.

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Maybe this is not evident in this audio but overall I would say he doesn't reiterate the same thing that everyone is telling. What he does speak is often entirely different and opposite than others. I would agree with his fact there is an entire self Improvement industry that is often fake and probably doing more harm than doing good.

I agree with him when he tells that in books like "The 7 habits of being an effective leader" and other thousands of similar books all these things are nonsense. When he tells that prescriptions don't work what he is telling that prescriptions arise from our reactions. Often we try to fix the intermediary rather than trying to understand the source. When we try to fix an intermediary without knowing the cause then we often revert back to the same state as before.

Also, he isn't a monk so he doesn't speak in the traditional monk style. He does live in the world and to live in the world we do need money.

So Yes I myself realized these things in my life that's why I found his writings mindblowing. What I don't understand sometimes that he at the same time opposes the traditional mediation methods but talk at the same time about doing the meditation. It seemed paradoxical. But I found same confusion when I was reading the Jiddu Krishnamurti books so I don't entirely assume that he is wrong.

Obviously he is differentiating himself from the rest of the self help industry which he also belongs to. Of course, he would criticize all others in his market space and say he is the only real deal. This is marketing 101. He is not selling kitchen cabinets.

Yes, we need money to live in this world. It is convention. But ripping off people by selling 5 min long top secret audio on his website for $500 is ridiculous.

Maybe I should read heart sutra and record a one minute audio and sell it as top secret of TRUTH for $500. Any takers? Sorry, I do not have a total marketing package to go with it.

Raushan, if you did not understand JK and have similarly confused what this gentleman is saying, it does mean he is right. Check your logic on how arrives at that conclusion.

Hope you don’t take this blunt talk personally.

Warm regards,

Middleway



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Raushan,

I've listened twice, and read some other things from his website, but before I respond to your question, perhaps you could answer mine? What is it you find 'mindblowing' about this? Also, what don't you understand?

Maybe this is not evident in this audio but overall I would say he doesn't reiterate the same thing that everyone is telling. What he does speak is often entirely different and opposite than others. I would agree with his fact there is an entire self Improvement industry that is often fake and probably doing more harm than doing good.

I agree with him when he tells that in books like "The 7 habits of being an effective leader" and other thousands of similar books all these things are nonsense. When he tells that prescriptions don't work what he is telling that prescriptions arise from our reactions. Often we try to fix the intermediary rather than trying to understand the source. When we try to fix an intermediary without knowing the cause then we often revert back to the same state as before.

Also, he isn't a monk so he doesn't speak in the traditional monk style. He does live in the world and to live in the world we do need money.

So Yes I myself realized these things in my life that's why I found his writings mindblowing. What I don't understand sometimes that he at the same time opposes the traditional mediation methods but talk at the same time about doing the meditation. It seemed paradoxical. But I found same confusion when I was reading the Jiddu Krishnamurti books so I don't entirely assume that he is wrong.
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Meditation, Practice And The Path / Re: Views on Revertant Pramote?
« Last post by Middleway on April 16, 2021, 03:01:12 AM »
Hi Matthew and sangha,

I am interested in your view pertaining lp pramote.  I would like to understand what is it? This is more for me to see my own blind spot toward his view and speeches.

As i did mention before, i am deeply rooted in theravada. And i mostly read books from theravada monks, only english and thai monks. Some of them, i believe has certain views, which are deeply rooted from their culture, so it may not be credible, or is evident to say it is right. Some of the biased view are easy to spot, but some are not.

So i would appreciate your view on his points.

LP Pramote is enlightened in my opinion (at this time).
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Meditation, Practice And The Path / Re: Overwhelming grief.
« Last post by Guillaume on April 15, 2021, 07:19:40 PM »
I saw him on. youtube few years back, is it still require to pay for the course?
The videos I saw are free. Maybe he finally released them for free after a while, but there are plenty of people on youtube that show how to do them, with some variations.

I think I saw a comment on these videos that it looked like pranayama breathing for cavemen, I must say I agree on that! Anyways, breathing is always good if you feel down :)

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Raushan,

I've listened twice, and read some other things from his website, but before I respond to your question, perhaps you could answer mine? What is it you find 'mindblowing' about this? Also, what don't you understand?
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