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Vipassana Meditation Forum => Meditation, Practice And The Path => Topic started by: Josef Ruzicka on September 30, 2018, 06:05:41 PM

Title: Clinging on meditation?
Post by: Josef Ruzicka on September 30, 2018, 06:05:41 PM
Hey everybody,

sometimes I find myself excessively planning my 1 hour evening meditation when do not have so much time that particular evening, fearing that I won't be able to meditate and that runs my brain even more.

I feel like this planning is a waste of time and energy because life is unpredictable. I know that it will happen somehow, with or without meditating so there is nothing to be afraid of, but still cannot stop thinking about that. I just want to have everything under control... I somehow fear that if I don't meditate, I will lose my progress, which is ridiculous but deep down this belief is rooted in me.

Does anyone experience something similar? How do you deal with that?
Thank you all :)
Title: Re: Clinging on meditation?
Post by: stillpointdancer on October 01, 2018, 10:47:21 AM
Just do a ten minute meditation instead, or one lasting two minutes. Or a longer one every two or three days if that's what you are interested in. It really doesn't matter how often or for what duration, as long as you meditate on a regular basis on the long term. I was once so busy that two minutes at breakfast was the only time I could manage, but gradually those two minutes became all I needed for a while.
Title: Re: Clinging on meditation?
Post by: VipassanaXYZ on October 01, 2018, 04:05:04 PM
Hey everybody,

sometimes I find myself excessively planning ... runs my brain even more.

... nothing to be afraid of, but still cannot stop thinking about that. I just want to have everything under control... I somehow fear 


Goenka talks about five hindrances during the discourses: drowsiness (heaviness/sleep while meditation, going blank, sitting but forgetting the breath, sitting but forgetting where in the body in what order you were observing sensation), craving or desire is another one, agitation is another (say, itching/restlessness), and doubt or fear also aversion of some kind might come up.

Understand this is progress. Yup.

Recognize these mental states as coming of doubt or fear, smilingly face it, it will change leaving you lighter clearer than before!

Title: Re: Clinging on meditation?
Post by: tbarron on February 16, 2019, 11:54:39 AM
What occurs to me is to take the planning thoughts as an object of meditation. When you have a thought about planning your session, just notice it and watch until the thoughts subside. If it comes up again later, watch again until it subsides.

I struggle sometimes with repetitive thoughts about  recent interactions with other people. When I remember, I try to use this approach for those thoughts.